Martini henry paper patch bullets

To achieve accuracy a bullet with the diameter of at least. May 23, 2018 the alternative is to dip the tip of the bullets in udder cream, i am not making this up, there is a devoted group of snider and martini henry shooters that swear by this method. You may choose from these designs, use one of these as a basis and specify modifications, or submit a completely custom drawing either electronically or by regular mail. This design is available as a basepour fixed weight design only. Henry bullet was however identified as cylindroconoidal, no cavity, paper cap on base. Have any of you heard used a heavy paper patch bullet of 620 gn shooting in a martini henry rifle, these bullets are bought from the shelf. Choose a design from our catalog or submit your own custom design. Jun 24, 2017 i paper patch my martini henry bullets. Roll bullet onto paper so patch will match barrel twist, should separate in flight 6. You can clearly see the paper patch leaves the barrel intact around the bullet at 00.

The martinihenry is a breechloading singleshot leveractuated rifle that was used by the british army. I wet the paper with water, roll them, then let dry. Further complicating the situation is the fact that the actual bore diameter of a martini henry rifle varies between models and even manufacturers. This is currently loaded obsolete black powder cartridge rifle ammunition for rifles chambered in 577450 martini henry chambering.

Please note that this design is a tapered bullet design. Whitworth decided to paper patch his hexagonal slugs for his eponymous muzzleloading rifle and their appearance in cartridges sometime around approx. R 455420pp paper patch bullets for both the martini henry rifle and carbine. Perhaps the answer lies in the barrels used for shooting paper patched bullets. Its a seven groove rifling, and had to adapt a dial indicator with a pointed probe to mount to my testex handheld base. It combined the droppingblock action first developed by henry o.

The smooth sided bullet was paperpatched with a thick cake of beeswax below the bullet with two cardboard discs above and a single one below. The original martini henry bullets were also paper patched, as mentioned in part 1. As new designs are ordered, they are numbered and added here. Martini henry paper patch bullets weight shooters forum. Some books say that you should not lube paper patched bullets but others say firing dry paper patched bullets down your bore will soon hone it out to a bigger calibre. There are few things as attractive as a nice row of martinihenry 577450 bullets all lined up with their new crisp white.

In december 1867 it was decided to extend the trials and between june and october 1868 barrels and ammunition by several makers were tested. Whether youre new or experienced at lead bullet casting, looking for a mould to suit your old 577450 martini henry, your smle 303 british, your martini 310 cadet or brand new rifle, handgun or shotgun, were sure youll find something so that you can cast your own quality, accurate lead bullets. May 17, 2016 you can clearly see the paper patch leaves the barrel intact around the bullet at 00. Wrap paper around two times to check length, ends of paper should just match up 3. New aluminium bullet moulds from xring services in the usa, these are single cavity 500 gr. Two wraps will increase the diameter of the paper patch bullet about. That being said, if you want to shoot loads without a paper patch, the bullet generally needs to be between. The rifles were made by colt ironically as berdan was an engineer and not a manufacturer. The bullet was the normal lead alloy carbine bullet weighing 410 grains but had a red paper patch with equidistant longitudinal thin black lines. The last one is just a bitza with a ruined bore which will soon be a 577 snider with a new walther barrel. Paper patched bullets were especially popular in europe, and was used in, for example, the british martini henry rifle and mausers infanteriegewehr mod. Paper patched bullets were especially popular in europe, and was used in, for example, the british martinihenry rifle and mausers infanteriegewehr mod.

For use in the famous martinihenry single shot falling block rifle. Using black powder is now big deal, i have it, know how to use it, and know it works fine with paper patched bullets, but can i use smokeless powder with paper patched. Discussion in handloading and reloading started by bpr, jul 31. In terms of rangecred it separates the seasoned campaigners from the newbies and says this guy is really into periodcorrect shooting. Best accuracy is usually accomplished with a much closer. Have any of you heard used a heavy paper patch bullet of 620 gn shooting in a martini henry rifle, these bullets are bought from the. I plan to try paper patching some hollow base lead bullets designed for the 4570 round and shooting them in my martini henry carbine. I used 2 cups of beeswax as 50%, 1 23 cups of crisco about 41% and cup of vegetable oil about 9%. It can handle soft and oversize bullets without major pressure issues. Mass produced bullet molds are designed with very conservative, minimal dimensions north of the crimp groove, so that they will chamber in the great variety of firearms out there. When shooting black powder it is best to keep the fouling moist so i lube my paper patched bullets.

I made some lube using the 50%, 40%, 10% formula of beeswax, crisco and vegetable oil. New made solid brass bullet moulds in the jim goodwin pattern, single cavity 480. I could put a paper patch on those to get them up to the requisite. Btw, i contacted lee to see if they would consider making a mold for the martini if there is enough interest. Martini henry variants were used throughout the british empire for 47 years. Paper patched bullets were especially popular in europe, and was used in, for example, the british martinihenry rifle and mausers. Bullets from buffalo arms, montana precision or get a mold and make your own. Good day members i am currently reloading paper patch cast bullets, 620 gn in weight for a martini henry rifle. Youll only need enough lube to cover the paper patch. If you use my paper patch lube, make sure that it is as soft as butter when you apply it.

The martini henry is a breechloading singleshot leveractuated rifle that was used by the british army. Most of the paper patching of bullet articles i have read seem to indicate that the bullet should be of bore diam, rather than groove dia. This expanding catalog contains designs that are already on file. These molds are designed to fit lee six cavity handles. Ball rifle breechloading martini henry mark i, was made of coiled brass sheet. These were recently recovered from a victorian military rifle range. You can also watch as the paper patch comes off the bullet between the muzzle at 00.

He has now asked for some more, but all i currently have are patched to. Sniderenfield and pattern enfield moulds 590620fbss for the modern fasttwist. They wont shoot accurately in a martini henry unless they are paper patched, because the diameter is too small. How i paper patch my 490 grain pure lead bullets for my 1887 martini henry rifle.

But could the hi tek coating do something nasty to the bore. Because of this, very few martini henry rifles will accurately fire the. Reloading 577450 paper patched martinihenry round youtube. Can anyone help me, i am looking for the printed template for mh paper patches i have seen int on the internet but i cant find it now i. Martyn offers a paper patched variant that is patched up to. So i wanna know your thoughts about this so called martini henry fix. These are loaded using swiss black powder, properly head stamped boxer primed brass and. When the paper dries it shrinks tight to the bullet. The barrel was however a metford, hence the designation lee metford, not lee enfield. Dec 24, 2016 i am loading for the 577 450 martini henry. Im getting my martini henry iv c pattern next week, so im looking for reloading materials.

Right now i feel like its just a normal, regular, ordinary scout weapon. Paper for paper patching 90 gsm paper, this a4 size paper is all cotton and suitable for paper patching bullets to shoot from the martini henry or snider, i use this in fire formed cases as new cases are to tight to get the bullets in. The original loads used paper patched bullets and needed a big beeswax lube plug between card wads underneath it to keep the fouling soft and allow 250 shots between cleanings and acceptable accuracy. I have been trying to narrow down who exactly first conceived of using paper patch bullets in metallic cartridges as there is a huge gap between when sir jos. Martinihenry variants were used throughout the british empire for 47 years. You can paper patch bullets to get that diameter or get a mold to cast grease groove bullets that large. This type of bullet was very prevalent in the black powder cartridge.

I just measured an old martini coil brass case,the projectile had lost its paper patch. The bores on both my mhs slug 461 and i use a 462x500gn bullet. A carbine round, thats the one with orange paper patch that one measured. The original martinihenry bullets were also paper patched, as mentioned in part 1. From a military perspective, the paper patched bullets were not that popular in the usa, but they were extensively used among civilians. I also wipe my own loaded cartridges with a paper towel before boxing, to prevent dust and dirt from accumulating on the bullet. One of the earlier attempts, which is still popular today with muzzle loaders and users of black powder rifles, prevents leading and obtains potentially better velocity and. The facts are that hiram berdan first utilized paper patch bullets starting in 1868. New brass or reformed brass 24ga from xring services. Right now it mosly makes 75 or 90 damage and it does not one shot the enemy like it was doing before the patch. The original martini henry ammunition was loaded with dry patches but there was a beeswax disc below the bullet which coated the bore with wax on firing. There is a great resource online, the british militaria forum has many very knowledgeable people that have posted information on every aspect of shooting old british. Some history, reloading and testing of the modern take on the historical, paper patch cartridge with the martini henry.

Precision cnc lathe bored custom bullet casting molds. Of these the following used paper patch bullets with the boxer cartridge case. For use in the famous martini henry single shot falling block rifle. I have had good success using the lee 457450f bullet sized to. The original martinihenry ammunition was loaded with dry patches but there was a beeswax disc below the bullet which coated the bore with wax on firing. Two wraps will increase the diameter of the paper patch bullet about 12 thou, depending on method of wrapping. Please order in the other features drop down box above. Shooting a soft alloy will allow the bullet to obturate, or swell up into the rifling. The martini henry bore starts out larger and squeezes the bullet by the time it reaches the muzzle. The martini henry bore has a looooong tapered throat that goes from about. It first entered service in 1871, eventually replacing the sniderenfield, a muzzleloader converted to the cartridge system. Reloading 577450 rounds for my 1887 martinihenry, using 480grn lead bullet and 85 grns of black powder. Paper patch printed template british militaria forums. Cast bullet engineering cast bullet moulds hand cast.